
We Don't Understand Live Streamers | Trash Taste #47


[04:55 - 05:02]YouTube announced a potential update to remove the dislike button


[05:02 - 05:12]This has sparked negative reactions from creators and viewers


[05:36 - 05:43]Some argue that the dislike button is useful for judging a video's quality or legitimacy


[05:50 - 06:10]Others point out that removing the dislike button could lead to more scam or clickbait content


[05:50 - 06:10]Many creators did not ask for the dislike button to be removed


[05:50 - 06:10]Removing the dislike button would also make it harder to gauge audience feedback


[06:21 - 06:26]The dislike button is often used as a form of protest or criticism by viewers


[06:26 - 06:43]YouTube has a history of implementing unpopular changes and backpedaling later


[06:44 - 06:49]The dislike button is especially useful for tutorial videos and software downloads


[00:00 - 07:01]The potential removal of the dislike button has sparked discussions about the influence of YouTube and its impact on content creators and viewers


[07:01 - 07:13] YouTube tutorial videos are found to be more useful than just googling and going into specific Microsoft forums from several years ago.


[07:13 - 07:23]Microsoft forums often have outdated information and no replies or provide unhelpful suggestions.


[07:36 - 07:55]YouTube tutorials allow for a better search experience and often have a positive like to dislike ratio, indicating a successful fix.


[08:05 - 08:13]Changes made by YouTube often receive backlash and criticism, but eventually become accepted and beneficial.


[08:20 - 08:42]Changes such as moving the comments section have streamlined the viewing experience.


[08:57 - 09:03]YouTube has changed from a five-star rating system to a like/dislike system, which has caused controversy but is preferred.


[10:18 - 10:29]YouTube apologies are often judged based on the like to dislike ratio, and removing dislikes may affect this.


[13:13 - 13:24]Removing the dislike button may lead to more negative comments and backlash.


[13:13 - 13:24]Creators can delete negative comments, but cannot get rid of dislikes.


[07:01 - 13:45]YouTube tutorial videos are found to be more useful than outdated Microsoft forums. Changes made by YouTube often receive backlash but eventually become beneficial. The removal of the dislike button may lead to more negative comments, and creators can still see the number of dislikes.


[13:45 - 13:54] Instagram removed publicly showing number of likes on posts


[17:22 - 17:33]Instagram was highly competitive and toxic with likes


[17:34 - 17:39]Creator can still see number of likes on their posts


[17:57 - 18:09]Some creators not affected because they are not part of that culture


[18:43 - 18:51]Debate over whether this change is good or not


[18:43 - 18:51]Removal of dislike button may not get rid of toxicity, just shift it to another form


[18:43 - 18:51]Removal of dislike button may not get rid of negativity on YouTube, just make it harder to find and report


[19:03 - 19:08]YouTube recently removed the dislike button


[19:09 - 19:26]YouTube may be trying to cover up issues instead of addressing them


[19:26 - 19:58]Discussion over whether this is censorship or not


[19:26 - 19:58]Similar situation with turning off comments on kids' videos to avoid pedophiles


[20:15 - 20:22]There are likely many controversial and inappropriate videos on YouTube that people are not aware of


[20:22 - 20:30]Normal people may not be able to easily report these videos without the public comments and dislikes to help identify them


[13:45 - 20:48]Overall, YouTube's changes may not effectively address the issues at hand.


[24:25 - 24:33]The speaker discusses the recent changes to the YouTube platform, specifically the removal of the dislike button.


[24:38 - 24:48]They feel that this change is going in the wrong direction and will not solve any existing problems.


[26:07 - 26:12]They express frustration with the inconsistency in demonetization of videos, using their own podcast as an example.


[26:39 - 26:48]The speaker also mentions positive changes made by YouTube, such as improvements to the copyright system.


[26:39 - 26:48]The speaker also notes the recent increase in quality of YouTube comments.


[26:39 - 26:48]Overall, the speaker believes that YouTube was in a healthy state before these recent changes and that the changes are unnecessary and may do more harm than good.


[27:34 - 27:45]They speculate that this may be due to a pressure to stand out in a sea of comments.


[27:46 - 27:53]The removal of the dislike button may also lead to more toxicity and negativity on the platform.


[20:48 - 27:58]In summary, the speaker discusses the recent changes to YouTube, both positive and negative, and expresses frustration with the removal of the dislike button and inconsistency in demonetization. They also note an increase in the quality of YouTube comments.


[27:59 - 28:05]Governments are using increased surveillance and tracking on devices


[28:13 - 28:25]ExpressVPN can help keep browsing anonymous and private


[28:32 - 28:41]Incognito mode does not hide browsing from internet providers or network admins


[29:36 - 29:43]Communication and customer support from YouTube is lacking


[32:37 - 32:43]Ratioing YouTube on Twitter can sometimes get a response


[32:49 - 33:03]Knowing a YouTube employee can help get issues resolved


[34:17 - 34:23]One feature on YouTube that should be removed is the video ranking system


[27:59 - 34:34]Governments are tracking devices, ExpressVPN can help, incognito mode is not foolproof, YouTube's communication and customer support is lacking, knowing a YouTube employee can help, and the video ranking system should be removed.


[34:34 - 34:39] The speaker is indifferent towards the ranking system on YouTube and believes it depends on the quality of the video.


[34:59 - 35:05]They discuss how YouTube ranks videos against each other, with 10 being the best and 1 being the worst.


[35:21 - 35:32]They mention setting expectations and evaluating videos based on their ranking.


[35:56 - 36:01]The speaker has mixed feelings about the ranking system, finding it both helpful and frustrating.


[37:02 - 37:11]The speaker shares a tactic of purposely making a "bad" video to reset expectations and avoid disappointment.


[39:01 - 39:12]They acknowledge the emotional attachment to views and numbers on YouTube.


[40:21 - 40:27]The speaker believes there is an acceptable amount of "failure" in terms of rankings.


[40:51 - 41:01]They mention the long-term performance of videos and how some may become popular despite starting off with a low ranking.


[34:34 - 41:01]Overall, the speaker believes the ranking system is fine where it is and serves as a way to digest data in a quick and easy manner.


[41:01 - 41:08]The importance of short term performance on YouTube is emphasized


[41:08 - 41:22]Long term performance and personal satisfaction as a content creator is disregarded


[42:07 - 42:21]The pressure to constantly produce successful content takes a toll on mental health


[44:59 - 45:06]The algorithm is unpredictable and can have a negative impact on creators


[45:36 - 45:44]The "proving grounds" of 100k-500k subscribers are the most challenging


[46:13 - 46:20]Once a creator reaches a certain level of success, they can predict how to continue growing


[41:01 - 47:39]Personal satisfaction and creating good content should be the focus, rather than constant growth and success.


[47:39 - 47:44] To reach a large audience on YouTube, one must consistently create engaging content.


[47:45 - 47:51]With experience, creating content becomes easier and less effort is required.


[48:47 - 48:52]The platform and audience have changed since the creators first began growing their channels.


[49:41 - 49:47]The subreddit for their podcast has become a community with its own inside jokes and lore.


[49:41 - 49:47]The subreddit includes posts about more than just the podcast episodes.


[50:38 - 50:43]Viewers are now actively interested in the creators' content, unlike when they first started out.


[51:16 - 51:32]There is no coherent watch order for the podcast, and viewers must follow multiple sources to understand everything going on.


[52:08 - 52:23]The subreddit has become a dedicated community with its own inside jokes and lore.


[53:13 - 53:20]The creators have collaborated with virtual YouTubers and find it an interesting and unique dynamic.


[53:56 - 54:01]Virtual YouTubers put effort into their character and stage presence, similar to wrestlers.


[54:15 - 54:22]Each virtual YouTuber has their own reasons for becoming one.


[47:39 - 54:22]To be successful on YouTube, one must consistently create engaging content and adapt to the changing platform and audience.


[54:22 - 54:29] The speaker likes a certain character and discusses being unable to control their face due to anxiety.


[54:37 - 54:49]They mention the concept of mixing 2D and 3D in Japan and how it is fading in the West.


[55:08 - 55:16]They discuss collaborations between IRL and vtubers, such as Yannas and Anthony Padilla.


[56:18 - 56:24]They talk about the differences between hololive and vshowjo in terms of content creation.


[57:01 - 57:10]The speaker mentions watching less vtubers and more streamers, specifically Nijisanji.


[57:10 - 57:17]The speaker brings up the idea of agencies and acknowledges that they may not always have the best interests of the vtubers in mind.


[59:29 - 59:38]The speaker believes the vtuber hype has died down and content is now more important for growth.


[1.00:11 - 1.00:19]They mention the potential for vtubers to quit or show their faces in the future.


[54:22 - 1.01:25]Overall, the speaker is interested in where the vtuber community will go and how they will handle changes and challenges.


[1.01:26 - 1.01:33]Discussion about potential messy breakups in the industry


[1.01:34 - 1.01:47]Mention of previous messy breakups due to agency issues


[1.01:52 - 1.02:01]Interest in seeing how the industry will grow


[1.02:01 - 1.02:06]Speculation about v-tuber apology videos


[1.02:07 - 1.02:15]Comparison to watching YouTube evolve at a faster pace


[1.02:16 - 1.02:21]Observation that the industry is new and rules are not set in stone


[1.02:22 - 1.02:27]Discussion about individuality and uniqueness in the industry


[1.02:27 - 1.02:34]Mention of supporting friends who are v-tubers


[1.03:20 - 1.03:28]Personal preference for meeting fans in person and the joy that comes from it


[1.03:43 - 1.03:52]Discussion of v-tubers never being able to experience meeting fans in person


[1.06:07 - 1.06:13]Comparison to voice actors/actresses and fan interactions


[1.06:34 - 1.06:40]Respect and fascination for the v-tuber industry from a content creator's perspective


[1.06:46 - 1.06:55]Comparison to parents not understanding their children's careers


[1.06:56 - 1.07:06]Respect for streamers and their ability to consistently create content


[1.07:28 - 1.07:34]Jealousy of the collaboration and friendships within the streaming community


[1.07:54 - 1.08:00]Discussion of Twitch as a platform and its difficulty for new streamers


[1.08:01 - 1.08:06]Question about why most v-tubers are on YouTube instead of Twitch


[1.01:26 - 1.08:06]Discussion and observations about the v-tuber industry, including potential messy breakups, growth potential, comparison to YouTube, uniqueness, personal preferences, and respect for the industry and its creators.


[1.08:06 - 1.08:15]YouTubers are more popular in Japan than Twitch streamers


[1.08:27 - 1.08:38]Japanese viewers tend to stick to one platform for content consumption


[1.08:27 - 1.08:38]Western viewers are more likely to switch between platforms


[1.09:05 - 1.09:10]Twitch and YouTube are becoming more interconnected


[1.09:18 - 1.09:38]Ludwig is a popular content creator who did a subathon on Twitch


[1.09:18 - 1.09:38]The subathon lasted for over a week and involved Ludwig sleeping on stream


[1.14:09 - 1.14:16]There is a fear among content creators of saying or doing something embarrassing during a sleep stream


[1.14:17 - 1.14:23]One of the hosts would rather shit themselves on stream than utter a racist word


[1.14:37 - 1.14:46]The hosts joke about the potential backlash or attention from such an event


[1.14:47 - 1.14:55]The possibility of a VTuber shitting themselves on stream is discussed


[1.08:06 - 1.14:55]The conversation focuses on the popularity of YouTube in Japan, the interconnection between Twitch and YouTube, and the potential consequences of sleeping on stream as a content creator.


[1.15:04 - 1.15:14] Discussion about the subathon phenomenon on Twitch


[1.15:33 - 1.15:38]Comparing it to the Truman Show and Black Mirror


[1.16:14 - 1.16:21]Speculation on the mentality of viewers who donate large amounts of money while the streamer is sleeping


[1.16:14 - 1.16:21]Sharing personal experiences with gifting subs on Twitch


[1.17:40 - 1.17:46]Brainstorming a bizarre and potentially lucrative streaming idea involving bodily functions


[1.19:36 - 1.19:42]Mention of Twitch Plays Pokemon and its unique social experiment


[1.20:33 - 1.20:40]Imagining the moon landing with Twitch chat reactions


[1.21:24 - 1.21:29]Sponsorship mention for Liquid Ivy and its effectiveness in hydration


[1.14:56 - 1.21:43]The discussion covers the subathon trend on Twitch, its comparison to popular media, speculation on viewer mentality, personal experiences with gifting subs, and a potential bizarre and lucrative streaming idea.


[1.21:43 - 1.21:50] LiquidIV promo for 25% off using promo code trashtaste


[1.21:56 - 1.22:07]Twitch chat at sporting events, Olympics, sumo on Twitch


[1.22:49 - 1.22:56]Twitch chat goes crazy for car stopping at stop sign


[1.23:34 - 1.23:39]Twitch Place Pokemon and the lore created by the community


[1.24:24 - 1.24:31]The Helix fossil and the chaos vs. order debate


[1.25:56 - 1.26:04]Competitive gaming with one button or split controls


[1.26:52 - 1.27:04]Twitch streamer playing League of Legends with bananas as inputs


[1.27:09 - 1.27:24]Watching more stream content because of originality on YouTube


[1.27:32 - 1.27:55]Mr. Beast revolutionizing YouTube and his resources for original ideas


[1.28:09 - 1.28:35]Less original ideas on YouTube, more on Twitch


[1.21:43 - 1.28:35]LiquidIV promo, Twitch chat at events and for sumo, Twitch Place Pokemon and Helix fossil lore, competitive gaming, Mr. Beast and original content on Twitch vs YouTube.


[1.28:36 - 1.29:25] Twitch creativity is currently in a "golden age"


[1.29:47 - 1.29:55]Examples include marbles and "Salty Bets"


[1.30:40 - 1.30:48]Streamers are trying new, risky ideas that are successful


[1.31:15 - 1.31:25]Twitch chat and community aspect is a big part of content


[1.33:17 - 1.33:23]Watching streams to catch up with friends


[1.33:50 - 1.33:56]Difficult to keep up with all the content and watch time


[1.34:45 - 1.34:55]Watching YouTube and Twitch still feels like entertainment, but sometimes ideas can be used for own content


[1.28:36 - 1.35:18]Twitch creativity is at its peak, with streamers trying new, successful, and risky ideas while the community aspect and Twitch chat play a big role in content.


[1.35:18 - 1.35:33]Speaker talks about watching YouTube and Twitch for content inspiration


[1.37:05 - 1.37:15]They mention taking aspects from others' content and putting their own spin on it


[1.37:55 - 1.38:00]Speaker talks about making videos based on ideas from multiple unrelated videos


[1.37:55 - 1.38:00]They discuss how this is looked down upon in the YouTube community


[1.38:35 - 1.38:46]Discussion about originality in content creation


[1.39:11 - 1.39:19]They compare it to other creative fields where influences are openly embraced


[1.39:32 - 1.39:39]Discussion about the Picasso quote "good artist copy, great artist steal"


[1.40:02 - 1.40:12]Speaker talks about not caring if someone takes their video idea as long as they put their own spin on it


[1.40:02 - 1.40:12]They mention the importance of finding your own style and being influenced by others


[1.40:02 - 1.40:12]They talk about the importance of putting your own spin on things and not just copying ideas


[1.40:33 - 1.40:38]The speaker mentions not taking things too seriously and just making content that makes them happy


[1.41:32 - 1.41:42]They discuss how watching a lot of YouTube is important for success in the platform


[1.35:18 - 1.41:54]Speaker discusses their process for creating content, including watching YouTube and Twitch for inspiration, taking ideas from others and putting their own spin on them, and the importance of finding your own style. They also discuss the concept of originality in content creation and how it is perceived in the YouTube community. They mention the Picasso quote "good artist copy, great artist steal" and the importance of putting your own spin on things. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the importance of watching a lot of YouTube and being influenced by others in order to find success on the platform.


[1.41:54 - 1.42:03] People are often inspired to become YouTubers after seeing it on the news


[1.42:04 - 1.42:12]Understanding the platform and watching a variety of content is important for success


[1.43:12 - 1.43:28]Deleting social media history and understanding other platforms is also important


[1.44:16 - 1.44:23]The hosts discuss their own fascination with Twitch and how they easily get addicted to new interests


[1.46:08 - 1.46:13]They encourage listeners to join the Trash Taste community and support the show


[1.46:51 - 1.46:56]They joke about expanding the "Trash Taste Cinematic Universe" and competing with other fandoms


[1.46:57 - 1.47:02]Jerry and Connor end the episode by joking about their tiredness and thanking listeners for tuning in


[1.41:54 - 1.47:30]Becoming a successful YouTuber requires understanding the platform and watching a variety of content, as well as managing social media presence and being open to learning and adapting to new interests.