
Uncovering Secrets Behind Anime Piracy | Trash Taste #13


[02:24 - 02:44] Kiss Anime was a popular anime piracy website known for streaming anime.


[03:32 - 03:42]The website recently shut down, causing a lot of discussion on social media.


[03:42 - 04:03]Many people were surprised that people were still using Kiss Anime in 2020.


[04:29 - 04:40]Kiss Anime had multiple website extensions due to being shut down frequently.


[05:22 - 05:58]People were pirating well-known shows like Family Guy.


[06:26 - 06:33]The closure of Kiss Anime sparked discussion about the impact of piracy on the industry.


[06:51 - 06:59]The guest, Maylene, works in the industry and says there is a lot of speculation about the impact of piracy.


[06:51 - 06:59]It is difficult to obtain concrete statistics about the effects of piracy.


[06:59 - 07:15]Other piracy websites, such as Kiss Cartoon, were also popular.


[07:45 - 07:53]Kiss Anime was making a lot of money through ad revenue and hosting files.


[07:45 - 07:53]The closure of Kiss Anime has sparked discussions about piracy and its impact on the industry. Summary:


[08:11 - 08:22]The website would have multiple ads and even advertise inappropriate games.


[08:39 - 08:48]Maylene is not sure about the specifics, but believes the website was getting paid twice for hosting files.


[00:00 - 08:48]Kiss Anime was a popular piracy website that recently shut down, sparking discussions about piracy's impact on the industry. The website made a lot of money through ad revenue and hosting files, and its closure has raised questions about the impact of piracy on the industry.


[08:54 - 09:03] There is a need for piracy in some extents, but people on Twitter disagree


[11:05 - 11:24]KissAnime was a popular piracy website that was recently shut down


[11:56 - 12:07]They even tried to open a merch store, which was shut down before it could launch


[13:01 - 13:14]They had been shut down multiple times before, but always managed to come back


[13:41 - 14:04]Piracy has a strong branding power in the anime community, unlike any other industry


[13:41 - 14:04]Piracy was important for the growth of anime in the past, but now with accessibility and popularity, its effects are not as significant


[14:45 - 15:00]The discussion on anime piracy is divided into two extreme sides: for it or against it


[16:08 - 16:13]Japanese companies are aware of piracy and are strict about copyright on platforms like YouTube


[16:28 - 16:38]Japanese companies care about sponsorships and the use of screenshots, as fair use is not recognized in Japan


[08:48 - 16:45]Overall, anime piracy has played a role in the growth of the medium, but with the rise of legal streaming platforms, its significance is decreasing.


[17:00 - 17:13]They discuss potential copyright issues and how they handle them


[17:25 - 17:51]They talk about the effects of piracy on their business and how it differs between Japan and the West


[18:12 - 18:18]They mention a popular pirate site in Japan and its impact on sales when it shut down


[19:04 - 19:09]They share their personal experiences with using pirate sites and the hassle it involves


[19:09 - 19:25]They discuss the spending habits of Westerners and Japanese on manga


[19:41 - 19:52]They touch on the topic of people being proud of pirating anime and the potential backlash they could face from industry influencers


[19:41 - 19:52]They speculate on why some people may feel the need to defend pirating anime


[22:26 - 22:36]They mention the lack of English subtitles on Netflix Japan and the frustration it causes


[16:46 - 24:25]Overall, they discuss the prevalence of piracy in the industry and its impact on both consumers and businesses.


[24:25 - 24:41] The speaker did not drink until they turned 18 and did not openly admit to drinking alcohol before that age.


[25:02 - 25:15]The speaker admits to pirating in the past but now only does so if they have no other option.


[25:15 - 25:26]They believe that admitting to past mistakes and discussing them openly can lead to more productive conversations.


[27:02 - 27:15]They believe that shaming and gatekeeping people for pirating can push them away from being supportive fans.


[29:14 - 29:26]The speaker believes that buying official merch is a good way to support the industry, but it may not directly benefit the creators.


[30:42 - 30:52]They have heard that buying Blu-ray DVDs and manga is the best way to support creators.


[31:01 - 31:20]The speaker tries to buy manga first-hand to support creators.


[24:25 - 31:35]The speaker discusses their experiences with alcohol and piracy, and their belief that openly discussing past mistakes can lead to more productive conversations. They also touch on the topic of supporting the anime industry through buying official merch and supporting creators through purchasing Blu-ray DVDs and manga.


[32:59 - 33:21]Discussion about supporting the anime industry and buying merchandise


[36:19 - 36:26]Mention of the western anime industry and its impact on the Japanese industry


[36:32 - 36:39]Personal experience buying Jojo merchandise and supporting the industry through online orders


[36:39 - 36:47]Discussion about low salaries for animators in Japan


[36:47 - 36:52]Mention of inflated prices for merchandise on Yahoo Auctions


[36:47 - 36:52]Mention of two companies involved in making merchandise and how much of the profits go to creators


[36:47 - 36:52]Mention of cultural attitudes towards begging and how it relates to the lack of artists using Patreon


[36:59 - 37:05]Discussion about the DVD and Blu-ray business model and its limitations for global sales


[38:11 - 38:29]Mention of the prevalence of CRT TVs in Japan and their use for retro gaming


[38:11 - 38:29]Discussion about the abundance of second hand stores in Japan and the availability of retro games and merchandise


[31:35 - 39:10]Overall, there are challenges in supporting the anime industry and its creators, but there are also opportunities through online orders and alternative methods such as Patreon.


[39:10 - 39:19]Person talks about tangent and how crazy it is.


[41:05 - 41:11]They mention retro games and being spaced out.


[42:40 - 42:49]They discuss how the industry can improve in marketing and dealing with piracy.


[42:40 - 42:49]Person wishes the industry would take their advice and just calm down.


[43:18 - 43:24]They mention their success with convincing companies to stop certain practices that were not working.


[44:17 - 44:28]They mention their success with the audiobook project and frustration with companies not wanting to invest in it.


[44:49 - 44:56]They mention the slower pace of change in Japanese companies compared to American companies.


[44:49 - 44:56]Japanese companies are sometimes stuck in the 80s with their business practices.


[44:49 - 44:56]Person talks about the struggle of getting companies to invest in new ideas.


[45:01 - 45:19]Person discusses how they convinced Book Walker to work with Western YouTubers.


[45:26 - 45:31]They list various marketing strategies they have tried with Book Walker.


[45:31 - 45:42]Person suggests that working with foreign YouTubers could help bridge the gap.


[39:10 - 46:27]The last bullet point should be a concise and comprehensive summary of the previous points.


[47:21 - 47:26]The speaker and the person they are talking to discovered each other through the internet and anime-related content.


[48:40 - 48:49]The first interaction between the two was through email, and there was initial hesitation due to the potential for it being a scam.


[49:38 - 49:44]After verifying the legitimacy of the email and company, they arranged to meet in person.


[50:51 - 51:13]The speaker was one of the only foreign YouTubers at the time, which made them appealing to Japanese companies.


[51:20 - 51:27]The speaker had to go through a process of approval and preparation before their collaboration with the company.


[51:48 - 51:54]The speaker showed data and graphs to demonstrate the potential reach and impact of YouTube as a marketing platform.


[51:48 - 51:54]The collaboration was successful, and the speaker became a regular collaborator with the company.


[52:06 - 52:27]The company was Catacowal, a subsidiary of Bookwalker, and they were interested in promoting their official anime store, EJ Anime Store.


[52:37 - 52:43]The company brought in various anime figures and merchandise to showcase the type of products available on EJ Anime Store.


[53:57 - 54:06]Some of the featured products included a Fate/Iliya figurine, a Sword Art Online Asuna figurine, and a special bonus tapestry set.


[46:27 - 54:25]The speaker and the person they are talking to discovered each other through the internet and anime-related content. They initially communicated through email, and after verifying the legitimacy of the company, they met in person. The speaker was one of the only foreign YouTubers at the time, which made them appealing to Japanese companies. The collaboration was successful, and the speaker became a regular collaborator with the company, promoting their official anime store, EJ Anime Store.


[54:30 - 54:40] The speaker talks about a website called ejanimastore.com where they sell figures and merchandise related to anime.


[54:40 - 54:45]They mention that the website recently opened and will have more merchandise coming out soon.


[54:40 - 54:45]The speaker then talks about a sponsorship and thanks the sponsor for supporting them.


[54:51 - 55:01]They then talk about how they found a job in the anime and manga industry in Japan, despite being a foreigner.


[55:28 - 55:40]They mention that they were previously working at a marketing consulting company in Japan, and their Japanese language skills were not fluent.


[55:28 - 55:40]They researched the company and found out it was a big publishing company in Japan.


[57:19 - 57:36]They found a job listing on Craigslist for a digital manga marketing specialist at a company called Katakawa.


[58:07 - 58:29]The job did not require Japanese language skills, only English.


[59:29 - 59:35]The speaker talks about a sketchy job listing they found on Craigslist for a video platform looking for YouTubers to exclusively join their platform.


[59:29 - 59:35]They mention that they called the job listing and found out they were only interested in female YouTubers and were offering high pay and exclusive deals.


[1.01:10 - 1.01:30]The speaker also mentions that they checked other sections of Craigslist and found sketchy listings for paid favors and older women looking for younger men.


[54:25 - 1.02:07]The speaker talks about a website selling anime merchandise, mentions a recent sponsorship, and then discusses their job in the anime and manga industry in Japan, which they found through a Craigslist listing. They also share their experience with other sketchy job listings and paid favor listings on the website.


[1.02:07 - 1.02:24]The speaker discusses clicking on anime ads and being redirected to a potentially unsafe website.


[1.02:24 - 1.02:29]They mention seeing older married women advertising on the website.


[1.04:11 - 1.04:17]The conversation turns to the anime industry and working in Japan.


[1.04:44 - 1.04:54]The speaker asks for advice on how to work in the industry.


[1.04:54 - 1.05:00]Learning Japanese and having experience are important factors.


[1.06:33 - 1.06:48]The speaker shares their own experience and the importance of having a social life and charisma.


[1.07:16 - 1.07:39]They discuss the passion and loyalty of job candidates, as well as their own experiences with job applications and interviews.


[1.07:53 - 1.08:06]They also mention that having corporate experience and knowing how to use Excel is valuable.


[1.09:19 - 1.09:24]The speaker mentions the requirements for job applications in Japan, including writing cover letters by hand.


[1.10:16 - 1.10:49]The discussion ends with a dramatic moment when the speaker's phone drops to the floor.


[1.02:07 - 1.10:49]The speaker discusses their experiences with anime ads and the anime industry, as well as giving advice on how to work in Japan and the importance of Japanese language skills, experience, and social skills for job candidates. They also discuss the requirements for job applications in Japan, with a dramatic ending when their phone falls to the floor.


[1.12:07 - 1.12:19]Submission of business idea to Kalo Kawa's annual competition


[1.15:34 - 1.15:40]Idea chosen as one of the top 50 out of 200 submissions


[1.15:40 - 1.15:45]Presented a three-year business plan


[1.17:57 - 1.18:11]Won the competition and received prize money


[1.18:33 - 1.18:47]Idea became the foundation for Geeks Plus agency


[1.18:33 - 1.18:47]Geeks Plus opened with a lavish party, attended by Kalo Kawa employees and executives


[1.18:47 - 1.18:55]Joey was not present due to attending the Crunchyroll Anime Awards


[1.19:01 - 1.19:08]The restaurant where the party was held is owned by Kalo Kawa


[1.19:08 - 1.19:13]Kalo Kawa also owns other businesses outside of anime and manga


[1.10:50 - 1.19:13]The process of submitting and winning a business competition with Kalo Kawa, leading to the creation of Geeks Plus agency and a lavish opening party attended by Kalo Kawa employees and executives.


[1.19:13 - 1.19:21]At a two star mitchland restaurant, kona joined via Skype or Zoom


[1.19:21 - 1.19:28]They were using a different time zone, around 10-11pm


[1.20:19 - 1.20:28]They had to give a speech in front of important people, including representatives from various anime companies


[1.20:54 - 1.21:08]The speech was in English, but one of the introductions referred to them as "heroes of anime"


[1.24:07 - 1.24:15]They met cool people, including the publisher of Berserk


[1.24:56 - 1.25:12]Danny Chu was a highlight, as he was a pioneer in promoting Japanese culture and the anime industry in the West


[1.26:23 - 1.26:31]Eddie missed out on the experience due to a mix-up with his hotel room


[1.27:13 - 1.27:22]The best aspect of the awards was getting to chat with other creators


[1.27:13 - 1.27:22]The awards felt like a holiday where they could meet and network with other creators


[1.19:13 - 1.27:22]The group attended an event at a two star restaurant where they had to give a speech in front of important Japanese businessmen and representatives from anime companies. They also met notable individuals, including the publisher of Berserk and Danny Chu, who was a pioneer in promoting Japanese culture and the anime industry in the West. The best aspect of the event was networking and meeting other creators.


[1.33:38 - 1.33:51] The speaker was at an event where they presented an award and hosted with someone named Lily.


[1.34:36 - 1.34:41]The speaker talks about hanging out with ProZD and how he knows a lot about anime.


[1.34:36 - 1.34:41]They also mention a conversation they had with ProZD about his knowledge of anime.


[1.34:41 - 1.34:48]They were nervous about cracking a joke on stage, but went ahead and did it anyway.


[1.34:41 - 1.34:48]They talk about the technical difficulties and mess-ups during the event, but still give it a B+ for effort.


[1.34:41 - 1.34:48]During the final award, the speaker and Lily were given fake sake instead of real sake.


[1.34:48 - 1.35:01]During the rehearsals, the speaker made a joke saying that Nina from Code was the worst "best girl" and the Twitch chat loved it.


[1.34:48 - 1.35:01]The speaker mentions a funny moment where they thought someone in the audience said "I love you" to them, but it turned out they were shouting it to Lily.


[1.27:23 - 1.35:01]The speaker talks about their experience at an event where they presented an award and hosted with someone named Lily. They mention hanging out with ProZD and a conversation they had with him about his extensive knowledge of anime. The speaker also talks about a joke they made during rehearsals that was well-received by the Twitch chat. They mention some technical difficulties during the event, but still give it a B+ for effort. They also share a funny moment where they thought someone in the audience was shouting "I love you" to them, but it turned out to be directed at Lily. They end by mentioning a final award where they were given fake sake.


[1.35:12 - 1.35:19] The speaker talks about being allergic to alcohol and receiving free alcohol at a party


[1.35:19 - 1.35:33]They mention working for Book Walker and Geeks Plus


[1.35:47 - 1.35:58]The speaker shares their experience of attending anime conventions and meeting their husband


[1.36:15 - 1.36:25]They discuss the importance of networking and making connections in the anime industry


[1.38:28 - 1.38:40]The speaker gives tips on how to make connections, including attending events and joining Facebook groups


[1.39:57 - 1.40:24]They emphasize the importance of social skills in getting a job in any industry


[1.39:57 - 1.40:24]The speaker shares their experience of developing social skills by tutoring in English in Japan


[1.41:32 - 1.41:47]They mention negotiating business deals with Malene and her unique way of saying "oh"


[1.42:51 - 1.42:59]The speaker tells a story about a cosplay encounter at a Studio Trigger premiere


[1.35:01 - 1.43:34]A concise and comprehensive summary is that the speaker discusses their experience in working in the anime industry, including attending conventions, networking, and developing social skills to land a job. They also mention their current position at Book Walker and Geeks Plus.


[1.44:01 - 1.44:09]Discussion about encountering inappropriate behavior at conventions


[1.44:19 - 1.44:26]Advising not to use conventions as a way to get a job in the Japanese industry


[1.45:31 - 1.45:40]Discussion on the "black and white" terminology in Japanese companies


[1.45:49 - 1.46:06]Different opinions on the work culture in Japanese companies


[1.47:45 - 1.47:57]Working long hours and its impact on mental health


[1.47:45 - 1.47:57]Crunch time before events and its toll on employees


[1.50:58 - 1.51:07]Different experiences with American and Japanese companies


[1.50:58 - 1.51:07]Discussion on the amount of employees at Japanese company booths at conventions


[1.51:15 - 1.51:22]Opinions on the culture at foreign conventions


[1.51:30 - 1.51:43]The experience of cosplaying at a Japanese event and reactions from Japanese friends


[1.43:34 - 1.52:24]Discussion on encountering inappropriate behavior at conventions, differences in work culture between American and Japanese companies, and opinions on the culture at foreign conventions.


[1.52:25 - 1.52:32]The speaker talks about wearing a wig to cosplay as a character and the double standard of being judged for it.


[1.54:41 - 1.54:47]They discuss the stigma surrounding otaku culture in Japan and how it differs from the West.


[1.56:15 - 1.56:34]The conversation shifts to conventions and how guests are chosen based on sales and marketing.


[1.57:39 - 1.57:46]The speaker shares their experience of being mistaken for the author of Goblin Slayer at a signing event.


[1.59:15 - 1.59:24]The speaker questions the ROI for companies at conventions like AX.


[1.59:37 - 1.59:43]They mention that companies now bring their own guests to conventions rather than relying on the convention to provide them.


[1.59:37 - 1.59:43]Japanese companies are now bringing their own guests to conventions rather than relying on the convention to provide them.


[1.59:43 - 1.59:54]The speaker wonders if AX will become less important as anime gains more popularity in the West.


[1.52:25 - 2.00:02]Overall, the conversation revolves around the changing landscape of conventions and the growing presence of anime in the West.


[2.00:02 - 2.00:12] News sites are all at an event promoting anime and arranging interviews.


[2.00:12 - 2.00:23]Discussion turns to piracy in the anime industry.


[2.00:38 - 2.00:43]It is acknowledged that piracy is bad, but there are some gray areas.


[2.00:38 - 2.00:43]The debate about piracy should focus on finding a healthy middle ground.


[2.01:01 - 2.01:15]The podcast hosts do not care about piracy and will continue to pay for legal streaming options.


[2.01:21 - 2.01:43]Legal sites cannot fully compete with piracy.


[2.02:41 - 2.02:48]It is not worth arguing with people who choose to pirate.


[2.03:23 - 2.03:30]The hosts are not activists and believe people should do what they can.


[2.03:23 - 2.03:30]They do not condone bullying or taking advantage of the system.


[2.04:39 - 2.04:49]The guest, Meilynn, cannot talk about certain things due to her work in the industry.


[2.05:15 - 2.05:29]The hosts thank Meilynn for sharing her opinions and insights on the industry.


[2.05:29 - 2.05:35]She discusses the difficulties of getting a job in Japan.


[2.05:29 - 2.05:35]Craigslist is mentioned as a way to find jobs in Japan.


[2.00:02 - 2.06:02]The group discusses piracy in the anime industry, acknowledging its negative impact but also recognizing gray areas and the difficulties of legal sites competing with piracy. They advocate for finding a middle ground and not condoning bullying or taking advantage of the system. The guest, Meilynn, shares her experiences and insights from working in the industry.