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[00:02 - 00:41]Discussion on the importance of communication and openness in relationships

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[00:08 - 00:27]Acknowledgement of the complexity of emotions in relationships

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[00:41 - 00:47]Mention of audience reactions and expectations on relationships

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[00:48 - 01:03]Introduction of guests Mari Takahashi and Pamela Horton

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[01:04 - 01:27]Decision to have Pam on the podcast for a "two truths and one lie" episode

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[01:27 - 02:08]Text from Pam suggesting the podcast as a way to address their relationship and normalize their experience

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[01:33 - 01:48]Initial discomfort and negotiation on having Pam on the podcast

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[01:56 - 02:02]Personal experience of feeling comfortable and heard in talking to Ian about difficult topics

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[02:08 - 04:58]Mention of audience reactions and expectations on relationships

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[04:07 - 04:15]Acknowledgement of the complexity of emotions in relationships

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[04:15 - 05:16]Discussion on navigating relationships in the age of social media

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[05:17 - 06:39]Initial discomfort and negotiation on having Pam on the podcast

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[05:26 - 05:35]Background on their relationship as ex-girlfriends

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[06:19 - 08:29]Personal experience of feeling comfortable and heard in talking to Ian about difficult topics

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[08:29 - 08:48]Discussion on navigating relationships in the age of social media

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[08:54 - 09:18]Mention of audience reactions and expectations on relationships

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[09:18 - 10:01]Acknowledgement of Pam's talent and potential for success on her own

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[09:31 - 09:52]Decision to have Pam on the podcast for a "two truths and one lie" episode

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[10:01 - 10:07]Establishment of ground rules for their relationship in regards to social media

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[10:08 - 10:33]Personal experience of feeling comfortable and heard in talking to Ian about difficult topics

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[10:41 - 10:49]Mention of audience reactions and expectations on relationships

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[10:55 - 13:23]Personal experience of feeling comfortable and heard in talking to Ian about difficult topics

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[12:18 - 12:34]Background on their relationship as ex-girlfriends

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[12:47 - 13:01]Introduction to the concept of the "Pam Cave" as a way to process emotions

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[13:02 - 15:02]Personal experience of feeling comfortable and heard in talking to Ian about difficult topics

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[13:41 - 16:46]The speaker initially wanted to keep their relationship private due to past experiences.

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[13:56 - 14:27]Decision not to collaborate professionally due to concerns of being seen as a "climber"

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[15:27 - 17:59]They had important talks at the beginning of their relationship and had a great amount of respect for each other.

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[16:47 - 17:20]Having public personas made it more challenging to navigate when to introduce their partner to friends and family.

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[17:28 - 19:59]Communication was difficult for the speaker and their partner due to toxic masculinity and a lack of willingness to compromise.

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[20:00 - 21:43]They had to take time to rebuild themselves and figure out their own feelings before being able to communicate effectively.

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[20:25 - 22:00]The speaker's past relationship also affected their ability to communicate and caused emotional abuse.

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[20:35 - 23:42]They had to take time to rebuild themselves and figure out their own feelings before being able to communicate effectively.

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[22:41 - 23:00]Communication was difficult for the speaker and their partner due to toxic masculinity and a lack of willingness to compromise.

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[23:10 - 28:58]The speaker's past relationship also affected their ability to communicate and caused emotional abuse.

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[26:38 - 30:14]They had to take time to rebuild themselves and figure out their own feelings before being able to communicate effectively.

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[29:42 - 30:42]The speaker initially wanted to keep their relationship private due to past experiences.

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[29:53 - 30:14]The speaker has had a tumultuous year, including 13 surgeries.

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[30:15 - 30:22]The speaker felt emotionally unsupported by Ian during their hospital stays.

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[30:23 - 30:42]The speaker has had a tumultuous year, including 13 surgeries.

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[30:42 - 31:24]The speaker felt emotionally unsupported by Ian during their hospital stays.

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[31:10 - 31:53]The speaker has a history of cancer and has been in and out of remission.

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[31:54 - 33:01]The speaker had another torsion after Ian's business trip.

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[33:02 - 33:45]The speaker had a hysterectomy in January and was told they got all the cancer.

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[33:11 - 33:37]The speaker has a history of cancer and has been in and out of remission.

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[33:45 - 35:15]The speaker had a hysterectomy in January and was told they got all the cancer.

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[33:59 - 34:26]Eventually, they had a hysterectomy and salpingectomy to remove their uterus, fallopian tubes, and cervix.

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[35:16 - 36:57]They had multiple surgeries to try and fix it.

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[35:22 - 37:09]Their ovary had twisted and caused severe pain.

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[37:09 - 37:17]The speaker had a hysterectomy in January and was told they got all the cancer.

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[37:17 - 38:33]Ian was aware of the speaker's cancer risk before they started dating.

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[38:50 - 41:11]Ian went on a business trip while the speaker was in the hospital and wasn't there for them as much as they needed.

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[39:07 - 40:18]The speaker felt emotionally unsupported by Ian during their hospital stays.

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[39:31 - 42:28]Ian went on a business trip while the speaker was in the hospital and wasn't there for them as much as they needed.

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[41:03 - 42:52]The speaker suggested therapy, but the partner was resistant and made excuses

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[41:58 - 42:20]The speaker had another torsion after Ian's business trip.

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[42:52 - 45:23]The partner had a tendency to run away from difficult situations and use work as a coping mechanism

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[43:34 - 48:52]The partner's optimism clashed with the speaker's realism, causing communication issues

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[47:25 - 51:05]The speaker suggested therapy, but the partner was resistant and made excuses

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[52:20 - 54:56]The speaker's family drama was a source of stress for the partner, and the speaker felt guilty for unloading their baggage on them

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[54:56 - 56:11]The speaker and the person they are talking to had a difficult relationship with their family that caused physical and mental strain.

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[55:25 - 55:30]They eventually stopped talking to their family for a while but have since reconnected sporadically.

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[55:40 - 56:52]The speaker believes it's important to talk to one's parents, but if it's only causing harm, it's best to stop.

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[56:53 - 59:01]The person they are talking to was supportive during the speaker's battle with cancer, but the speaker initially didn't want to talk about it publicly.

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[57:12 - 58:55]The person they are talking to encouraged them to share their story, and it has helped others.

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[59:01 - 59:49]The speaker and the person they are talking to spent time together in the hospital and were able to look at their relationship objectively.

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[1.00:22 - 1.01:42]The speaker believes it's important to talk to one's parents, but if it's only causing harm, it's best to stop.

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[1.00:36 - 1.01:00]The speaker and the person they are talking to had a difficult relationship with their family that caused physical and mental strain.

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[1.01:42 - 1.02:41]The speaker and the person they are talking to have a unique relationship as friends after being in a romantic relationship.

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[1.02:41 - 1.04:08]They broke up amicably and were able to have a productive conversation about it.

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[1.03:17 - 1.03:33]The speaker and the person they are talking to had a difficult relationship with their family that caused physical and mental strain.

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[1.03:33 - 1.06:34]The speaker and the person they are talking to spent time together in the hospital and were able to look at their relationship objectively.

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[1.05:31 - 1.06:28]They recognize the importance of respecting and understanding each other's decisions and happiness.

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[1.06:29 - 1.08:22]The speaker acknowledges that it was selfish of them to be angry about the breakup if the other person was able to find someone who emotionally fulfilled them better.

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[1.07:03 - 1.08:04]The speaker expresses understanding and empathy towards their ex-partner's decision to end the relationship.

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[1.08:23 - 1.09:20]They discuss the common notion of there being only one soulmate and how it's okay to continue loving people from past relationships.

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[1.09:05 - 1.10:13]The speaker acknowledges that it was selfish of them to be angry about the breakup if the other person was able to find someone who emotionally fulfilled them better.

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[1.10:13 - 1.11:15]The speaker mentions that relationships can still be happy even if they have their ups and downs.

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[1.11:15 - 1.11:22]The speaker mentions that the relationship has given them a better understanding of people and their perspectives.

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[1.11:22 - 1.11:50]The speaker acknowledges personal growth and learning from their past relationships.

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[1.11:50 - 1.11:59]The speaker has become more patient and understanding towards others because of their relationship.

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[1.11:50 - 1.11:59]Pam and Ian are talking about a small barbecue and their relationship

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[1.11:59 - 1.12:17]The speaker acknowledges personal growth and learning from their past relationships.

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[1.11:59 - 1.12:46]Ian has always been an optimist and Pam has a better respect for it now

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[1.12:31 - 1.13:00]They reflect on the positives they have taken from their relationship and the respect and understanding they have gained.

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[1.12:46 - 1.12:53]They value trying to understand someone else's perspective instead of being stuck in their own head.

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[1.13:00 - 1.14:24]The speaker has become more patient and understanding towards others because of their relationship.

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[1.13:17 - 1.14:00]Ian and the speaker have remained good friends after their breakup due to their mutual respect for each other.

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[1.13:17 - 1.14:00]Pam knows Ian better than he knows himself

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[1.14:33 - 1.16:45]Pam misses the romantic side of their relationship but also appreciates the independence Ian gives her

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[1.16:46 - 1.17:49]Ian trusts Pam completely and it was something she had never experienced before

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[1.17:16 - 1.18:47]Ian talks about his breakup with Anthony and the differences between that and his breakup with Pam

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[1.17:49 - 1.18:14]Pam knows Ian better than he knows himself

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[1.18:14 - 1.18:58]Ian talks about his breakup with Anthony and the differences between that and his breakup with Pam

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[1.19:06 - 1.20:09]Pam sees Ian grow and become a better person after each breakup

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[1.20:09 - 1.20:22]Ian has always been an optimist and Pam has a better respect for it now

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[1.20:23 - 1.21:05]They thank the audience for joining them on this journey and being a part of their therapy session

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[1.20:34 - 1.22:03]Pam and Ian encourage people to subscribe to Smoshcast and check out Smosh merchandise on Smosh.store.