The Most Controversial Anime Takes (ft. @HasanAbi) | Trash Taste #145
[01:19 - 01:24]The speaker is discussing anime and politics with the hosts of the Trash Taste Podcast
[04:07 - 04:12]They mention Dragon Ball Z not aging well and the use of reused assets in fight scenes
[04:20 - 04:26]They introduce themselves as Tom Piker, also known as Hassanabi
[04:20 - 04:26]They talk about being a leftist and how they are joined by the boys as per usual
[04:33 - 04:42]The speaker discusses being a fan of anime and how they used to draw characters from Try Gun
[05:55 - 06:04]The speaker talks about their first experience with anime being dubbed in Turkish
[06:39 - 06:48]They mention not understanding the distinction between anime and Western animated shows as a child
[07:00 - 07:05]The speaker discusses watching anime growing up in Turkey and being exposed to some Western shows
[00:00 - 07:05]A comprehensive summary would be that the speaker joins the Trash Taste Podcast to discuss their love for anime and politics, specifically mentioning leftist politics and their love for Try Gun. They also mention Dragon Ball Z not aging well and their first experience with anime being dubbed in Turkish.
[07:05 - 07:13]The speaker discusses the concept of dubbing and how it seemed like magic.
[07:20 - 07:28]They mention that in Turkey, where they grew up, there were not many Turkish cartoons and everything was dubbed.
[07:29 - 07:38]Upon coming to America, the speaker realizes the difference between anime and Western shows.
[07:51 - 07:58]The speaker mentions some of their favorite anime, including Dragon Ball Z, Cowboy Bebop, and Samurai.
[07:58 - 08:06]They talk about how they would go to bookstores in America to read manga because it was not available in Turkey.
[09:47 - 09:52]The speaker and the host discuss their preference for physical copies of manga rather than digital.
[10:05 - 10:14]They also mention the delays in English translations of manga, using Jojo as an example.
[12:06 - 12:12]The speaker's bad take of telling people not to watch Part 1 of Jojo.
[12:50 - 12:56]They briefly discuss the plot of Jojo and how it rewards viewers for watching from the beginning.
[13:22 - 13:30]They mention how watching Part 1 gives a timestamp of when it was made.
[07:05 - 13:30]The speaker discusses their experience with dubbing, the differences between anime and Western shows, and their love for anime, particularly Jojo. They also mention their preference for physical manga and the delays in English translations.
[13:30 - 20:16]JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is reminiscent of 80s action movies and features overly buff characters. -The main character, Jotaro, is a popular and charismatic character in Japan. -The show has a reputation for having an annoying fan base and often requires being bullied into watching it. -One Piece, another popular anime, also has a large and dedicated fan base. -One Piece is a very political anime with leftist themes. -Every arc in One Piece details leftist politics, and the creator, Oda, is a known leftist. -The arcs in One Piece touch on topics such as resource deprivation, indigenous populations, and fighting against corrupt military forces. -The main character, Luffy, is a freedom fighter and is fighting against an unjust and corrupt government. Overall, One Piece is a popular and political anime with a dedicated fan base and leftist themes.
[23:51 - 23:59]Person discussing anime and politics
[26:51 - 26:57]Discussion of how this is viewed as not political
[27:05 - 27:12]Mention of the main character going against a corrupt government
[27:05 - 27:12]Discussion on how the main character may represent leftist ideals
[27:13 - 27:19]Commentary on the show's art style
[27:41 - 27:53]Suggestion to start an anime analysis channel
[27:41 - 27:53]Mention of a new game with trans representation
[27:41 - 27:53]Possible inspiration from real world history and events
[27:53 - 27:59]Debate on whether the creator's intentions are political or just cool references
[27:59 - 28:04]Reference to a previous conversation about the show
[27:59 - 28:04]Discussion on the intricacies of the show's world building
[27:59 - 28:04]Mention of another show, Vinland Saga, and its second season focusing on farming
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of a character killing cops in a show
[28:10 - 28:25]Reference to the show's creator and their political views
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of a photo in the creator's office with a Che Guevara photo
[28:10 - 28:25]Discussion on class dynamics and references to Marxist ideas in the show
[28:10 - 28:25]Comparison to real world events and politics
[28:10 - 28:25]Explanation of the term "wage slavery"
[28:10 - 28:25]Commentary on the show's political themes and the creator's intentions
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of the creator's pacifist and humanitarian beliefs
[28:10 - 28:25]Commentary on the show's balance between violence and anti-war message
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of the creator's concerns about the second season's departure from season one's violence
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of the creator's concerns about the second season's departure from season one's violence
[28:10 - 28:25]Mention of the creator's concerns about the second season's departure from season one's violence
[20:16 - 28:25]Discussion on the intersection of anime and politics, with references to a specific show and its creator's political views, as well as a comparison to another show and its exploration of class dynamics and anti-war themes.
[28:26 - 28:34]Author discusses his intention to portray glorified violence and challenge societal perceptions of it
[28:34 - 28:43]He expresses concern that he may have done too good of a job with this portrayal
[29:32 - 29:40]Author's personal thoughts on violence and its portrayal in media
[29:48 - 29:57]Author's inspiration for the story and how he conveys his thoughts and emotions through it
[30:04 - 30:11]Mention of political ideas and injustice in the story
[30:11 - 30:21]Recognition of the human element in the author's storytelling
[30:34 - 30:41]Discussion of the message being conveyed in the first part of the story and how it was well-received
[30:57 - 31:03]Appreciation for historical manga and anime
[31:03 - 31:10]Discussion of the amount of research the author has to do for each chapter
[31:40 - 31:52]Discussion of the character Askelad and his representation in the story
[31:58 - 32:05]Use of real historical accounts in the story
[33:37 - 33:43]Author's portrayal of a controversial character in a positive light
[34:19 - 34:28]Mention of tackling the topic of racism in America in the story
[35:09 - 35:28]Fascination with black culture in America from the perspective of someone outside of the culture
[35:35 - 35:42]Appreciation for the merging of rap and samurai culture in the anime Samurai Champloo
[28:26 - 35:42]Author discusses his intention and concerns about portraying glorified violence, the reception of the story's message, his personal thoughts on violence, and the human element in his storytelling. He also discusses his inspiration and use of real historical accounts, as well as his tackling of controversial topics such as racism. The author also expresses his fascination with black culture in America and appreciation for the merging of rap and samurai culture in the anime Samurai Champloo.
[35:42 - 35:53]Japanese culture merging with hip hop in entertainment (ex. Samurai Champloo)
[36:05 - 36:14]Other examples of this merging (ex. Afro Samurai, Boondocks)
[36:28 - 36:34]Co-creators inspired by anime and incorporate it into their work
[36:51 - 37:00]British culture also popular in Japan, especially in past
[36:51 - 37:00]Japanese fascination with American culture (ex. Yankee sweaters)
[37:53 - 38:01]American fascination with British culture (ex. Harry Potter)
[41:16 - 41:22]Difficulty finding clothing in Japan that fits larger sizes
[41:16 - 41:22]Retail worker helps find clothing that fits
[41:16 - 41:22]Japanese fashion trends (ex. oversized clothing)
[41:16 - 41:22]Personal experience with difficulty finding clothing that fits
[41:43 - 41:50]Baki anime includes political figures and messages
[41:43 - 41:50]No consistent political message in Baki, more focused on incorporating cool elements
[35:42 - 42:27]Japanese and American cultures have a strong influence on each other, seen through entertainment and fashion trends, but also face challenges in finding clothing that fits larger sizes. The anime Baki also incorporates political figures and messages, but focuses more on incorporating cool elements rather than delivering a consistent message.
[42:27 - 42:37]The speaker discusses their love for a certain show and how they relate to the main character while working out
[42:43 - 42:50]They comment on the father character in the show and how he encourages his son to have sex to gain power
[46:37 - 46:43]The speaker and their friends talk about anime and whether certain shows can be considered mecha anime
[46:37 - 46:43]They mention their personal favorite mecha anime, Attack on Titan, and how it can be seen as a mecha anime due to the characters controlling the Titans
[46:37 - 46:43]The speaker and their friends debate the definition of mecha anime and whether it applies to shows like Attack on Titan and Neon Genesis Evangelion
[46:37 - 46:43]The speaker's love for Attack on Titan is seen as controversial by some fans of the mecha genre
[46:37 - 46:43]The speaker's opinion on Attack on Titan being a mecha anime is seen as a joke or a troll by some of their friends
[48:40 - 48:45]The speaker and their friends discuss different terms for mecha anime and whether they originate from English or Japanese
[42:27 - 49:29]The speaker and their friends have a lighthearted and humorous conversation about their love for anime and their opinions on different genres.
[49:29 - 49:35]Discussion about genres and boundaries
[49:45 - 49:55]Disagreement on whether Attack on Titan is a mecha or not
[51:22 - 51:33]Discussion on control systems in mecha
[51:33 - 51:40]Mention of upcoming final season of Attack on Titan and potential delays
[51:41 - 51:50]Introduction of the concept of "flesh mecha"
[51:41 - 51:50]Introduction of the concept of "flesh mecha"
[51:41 - 51:50]Possibility of creating sub-genres within mecha genre
[51:56 - 52:02]Comparison to other mecha anime
[53:02 - 53:07]Mention of manga material and possibility of original endings
[53:02 - 53:07]Comparison to other anime that have had original endings
[53:59 - 54:05]Mention of Zelda and Tokyo Revengers as examples
[54:41 - 54:46]Comparison to Jojo and Baki
[55:11 - 55:16]Final thoughts on disregarding age in anime and manga discussions
[55:16 - 55:24]Discussion on the age of characters in anime and manga
[55:16 - 55:24]Questioning the importance of age in determining character traits
[55:16 - 55:24]Discussion on characters' appearances not matching their stated age
[55:16 - 55:24]Confusion over why certain characters are stated to be a certain age
[49:29 - 55:48]The audio features a discussion on genres and boundaries, specifically whether Attack on Titan can be considered a mecha anime. The concept of "flesh mecha" is introduced and compared to other mecha anime. The possibility of creating sub-genres within the mecha genre is discussed. The conversation also touches on the upcoming final season of Attack on Titan and the potential for delays. The age of characters in anime and manga is questioned, with examples from Zelda, Tokyo Revengers, Jojo, and Baki. The discussion concludes with a reflection on the importance of age in determining character traits and a suggestion to disregard age in these discussions.
[55:48 - 55:55]Discussion about a character in high school who does not look like a high schooler
[55:55 - 56:02]Comparison to a scene in an anime called "Part Three" where a character goes back to school
[56:22 - 56:27]Discussion about the types of anime the speaker enjoys and does not enjoy
[58:05 - 58:15]Mention of "Gundam" and its potential connections to communism
[58:26 - 58:33]Mention of "Code Geass" and its political themes
[59:32 - 59:38]Suggestion to watch "Fist of the North Star"
[59:57 - 1.00:07]Question about whether the speaker watches old anime
[1.00:14 - 1.00:20]Discussion about "One Piece" and its filler episodes
[1.00:35 - 1.00:40]Mention of a website to skip filler episodes in anime
[1.01:11 - 1.01:16]Comment that the arc is too long
[1.01:46 - 1.01:52]Mention of "Hunter Hunter" and its "Camara Ant" arc
[1.01:52 - 1.01:59]Mention of a villain in the arc who is a pedophile
[55:48 - 1.02:12]Discussion about various anime and their themes, including a comparison to a character in high school who does not look like a high schooler, a mention of political themes in "Code Geass" and "Gundam," and a suggestion to watch "Fist of the North Star." The speaker also discusses their preferences in anime and mentions a website to skip filler episodes. They also bring up the "Camara Ant" arc in "Hunter Hunter" and discuss a controversial villain in the arc who is a pedophile.
[1.02:12 - 1.02:19] The speaker discusses a character in a show who is considered too cool and strong.
[1.02:32 - 1.02:38]They mention a scene where the character says they are getting an erection.
[1.03:47 - 1.03:54]The show's author has had health problems and the speaker believes this impacted the quality of the manga's drawings.
[1.04:00 - 1.04:11]The speaker also mentions another author who experienced health problems during the creation of their manga.
[1.04:59 - 1.05:05]They discuss a character in the show who fights for healthcare and relate it to real-life healthcare issues.
[1.08:00 - 1.08:06]The show has a lot of content and it is difficult to piece together when certain events will occur.
[1.08:06 - 1.08:14]The speaker mentions the diversity in female character designs in the show.
[1.08:14 - 1.08:21]They discuss the concept of changing outfits and fashion in different anime shows.
[1.08:56 - 1.09:12]The speaker mentions being spoiled about some events in the show and seeing fan art on social media.
[1.02:12 - 1.09:12]The speaker discusses various aspects of a show and its author, including a character who is considered too cool, health problems impacting the quality of drawings, healthcare issues, diversity in character designs, and spoilers. They also mention the show's large amount of content.
[1.09:13 - 1.09:18]Person goes walking in Akihabara and buys a Zorro figure with a missing eye
[1.09:25 - 1.09:30]They talk about other figures they have seen, like Luffy with a chest thing
[1.09:53 - 1.10:02]Spoilers in anime and how they can be avoided
[1.11:59 - 1.12:07]Discussion about Luffy and Zoro's characters and their nationalities
[1.13:10 - 1.13:16]Mention of diversity in One Piece and other anime/manga
[1.13:10 - 1.13:16]Examples of diversity being poorly executed in Dura-da-da and Gantz
[1.15:06 - 1.15:15]Gantz character does blackface to disguise himself in a public shooting
[1.15:33 - 1.15:41]Fascination with inappropriate content in Japanese media
[1.09:13 - 1.15:53]Person discusses their experience buying a figure in Akihabara and discusses spoilers and diversity in anime/manga, with a specific example of blackface in Gantz.
[1.22:43 - 1.22:50]Person talking about watching anime with someone else
[1.22:57 - 1.23:05]Talks about anime that they've watched and their thoughts on them
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Discusses how all art is inherently political and the role of politics in our existence
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Expresses dislike for people who try to claim that anime is non-political
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Mentions their favorite anime
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Derails into a conversation about the same director creating their top three favorite anime
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Asks if the person they're talking to watches a specific anime
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Offers suggestions for anime to watch
[1.23:23 - 1.23:28]Person being talked to mentions a white guy in Japan telling people how to do things
[1.15:53 - 1.23:28]A person discusses their thoughts on watching anime with someone else, their favorite anime, and the role of politics in all art. They also mention their dislike for people claiming that anime is non-political and derail into a conversation about the same director creating their top three favorite anime. The person they're talking to offers suggestions for anime to watch and they briefly mention a white guy in Japan.
[1.23:28 - 1.23:35]The speaker expresses confusion and discomfort with the hand tie genre of pornography.
[1.23:35 - 1.23:41]They mention that they are not interested in tentacle porn.
[1.23:41 - 1.23:49]They observe that hand tie often depicts unrealistic human proportions.
[1.25:17 - 1.25:22]They also criticize the use of x-ray vision in hand tie.
[1.26:38 - 1.26:48]The speaker and the other person discuss the popularity of natural rare and voyeurism in Japan.
[1.27:18 - 1.27:24]The speaker mentions visiting anime stores in Akihabara.
[1.28:01 - 1.28:12]They mention receiving Dojins in their PO box.
[1.28:50 - 1.28:55]The speaker expresses their support for sex work and their distaste for censorship in Japanese pornography.
[1.30:07 - 1.30:17]They mention wanting to talk to the Japanese people about political issues.
[1.23:28 - 1.30:23]The overall topic of the conversation is the speaker's opinions on various aspects of Japanese pornography.
[1.30:24 - 1.30:38] Person discusses linking up with someone in America.
[1.30:50 - 1.30:56]They have a conversation about pronunciation of the word "diet".
[1.30:56 - 1.31:05]They mention talking to politicians and wanting to be an envoy who teaches sneaky ways of earmarking things into bills.
[1.30:56 - 1.31:05]Person talks about adding unrelated legislation into bills without mentioning it.
[1.32:52 - 1.32:58]They mention the popularity of Jav (Japanese adult videos) in Japan and China.
[1.33:55 - 1.34:01]Person discusses the mechanics of porn and censorship in Japan.
[1.36:07 - 1.36:17]Person talks about the laziness of censorship in Jav and the difficult job of the editors.
[1.36:36 - 1.36:52]They mention the history of censorship in Japan and its origins in the United States.
[1.36:52 - 1.37:01]They discuss the incorporation of Western values in Japan after the major restoration.
[1.30:24 - 1.37:01]The person discusses linking up with someone in America and talks about wanting to teach sneaky ways of earmarking things into bills. They also have a conversation about Jav's popularity in Japan and China, as well as the mechanics of porn and censorship in Japan. They mention the history of censorship in Japan and its origins in the United States, and discuss the difficulties of censorship in Jav. Finally, they mention the incorporation of Western values in Japan after the major restoration.
[1.37:01 - 1.37:19]The speaker discusses how homosexuality was viewed in the Ottoman era and the MENA region.
[1.37:20 - 1.37:52]Western attitudes against homosexuality stem from the dark ages when there was a need for repopulation.
[1.37:53 - 1.38:03]These attitudes have spread to many cultures, including ones in the Far East.
[1.42:31 - 1.42:40]Japan's society is a mix of hyper-capitalism and collectivism, which the speaker finds confusing.
[1.42:46 - 1.42:54]The speaker reflects on how his time in Japan has been and expresses his love for the country.
[1.42:46 - 1.42:54]The speaker mentions the post-war economic miracle in Japan and the pride people take in their work.
[1.43:09 - 1.43:15]There is a lack of concept of fighting for fair pay in Japan, but also a struggle to survive on low wages.
[1.43:58 - 1.44:05]The speaker is amazed at how Japan manages to spend less money overall but still have fewer issues with poverty compared to America.
[1.44:16 - 1.44:23]The speaker mentions the impressive railway system in Japan, which is government-funded.
[1.37:01 - 1.44:35]Overall, Japan's society and economy are complex and contradictory, with a mix of positive and negative aspects.
[1.44:36 - 1.44:45]Introduction: Discussion of privatization in Japan and its effects on the railway system
[1.45:26 - 1.45:36]Multiple companies owning different parts of the railway system causes frustration for users
[1.47:19 - 1.47:27]In America, the trains would be constantly colliding due to lack of privatization
[1.48:26 - 1.48:37]Despite this, the system still works efficiently
[1.49:07 - 1.49:17]Privatization has destroyed what was once a lifeline for the poor
[1.49:18 - 1.49:23]Inconvenience in Japan is minimal, only requiring gate changes
[1.49:18 - 1.49:23]Japan's trains running on time is not the norm in privatized railway systems
[1.49:18 - 1.49:23]Discussion of Japanese culture and pride in work
[1.49:18 - 1.49:23]Some aspects of Japan have not modernized, such as the use of paper and fax machines
[1.49:18 - 1.49:23]Difficulty in adopting new things and keeping jobs may be a reason for this
[1.49:34 - 1.49:40]Japan is just starting to implement contactless payment machines, while other countries have had them for a while
[1.49:56 - 1.50:01]Public transit is not a common thing in America
[1.49:56 - 1.50:01]Japan's use of cash is still prevalent, unlike in other countries
[1.44:36 - 1.51:22]Despite its problems, Japan is beautiful and has many amazing aspects, such as its efficient and reliable railway system.
[1.51:23 - 1.51:28]The speaker moved to Tokyo and did not drink anything.
[1.51:28 - 1.51:36]They discuss the convenience of vending machines and 7-Eleven stores in Japan.
[1.52:40 - 1.52:47]The speaker feels like an alien in Japan because they cannot speak Japanese.
[1.53:17 - 1.53:22]They compare the Latin alphabet to kanji and express the difficulty of understanding Japanese without knowing the language.
[1.56:44 - 1.56:54]The speaker has a different accent when speaking Japanese and Turkish.
[1.57:22 - 1.57:34]They discuss the potential for Tokyo to be more foreigner-friendly.
[1.57:55 - 1.58:03]The speaker shares their thoughts on preserving culture while catering to tourists.
[1.51:23 - 1.58:03]The speaker discusses their move to Tokyo, the convenience of vending machines and 7-Eleven stores, the difficulty of understanding Japanese without knowing the language, and the potential for Tokyo to be more foreigner-friendly. They also share their thoughts on preserving culture while catering to tourists and overall, express their enjoyment of Japan despite the language barrier.
[1.58:05 - 1.58:10] Bangkok is not the original name of the city, it's actually Grunge.
[1.58:36 - 1.58:42]The full name of Bangkok is the longest city name in the world.
[1.59:40 - 1.59:50]Thai people usually just refer to the city as "P.G."
[1.59:40 - 1.59:50]Thailand's capital city has a long and complex name.
[2.00:43 - 2.00:53]The Thai language has unique sounds that are not found in English.
[2.00:53 - 2.01:03]The Welsh language is more prevalent in Wales compared to Gaelic in Ireland and Scotland.
[2.01:10 - 2.01:21]Tradition and culture should be preserved, even in a multicultural world.
[2.01:42 - 2.01:51]Japan has an aging population and may need to consider immigration to address this issue.
[2.02:00 - 2.02:09]Integration is important for a multicultural society, but Japanese people do not prioritize it.
[2.02:15 - 2.02:20]The speaker streams on Twitch daily, even while in Japan.
[2.02:58 - 2.03:03]The podcast guests discuss anime and have the number one anime podcast.
[1.58:05 - 2.03:09]Bangkok's full name is the longest city name in the world and Thai people usually refer to it as "P.G." The Thai language has unique sounds, and the Welsh language is more prevalent in Wales compared to Gaelic in other countries. Japanese people prioritize preserving tradition and culture over integration. The speaker streams daily on Twitch and is a guest on the number one anime podcast.